jude Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 OK, well I've jumped on board and ordered one of the Natex E5-2670 server packages (Intel S2600CP2J Motherboard w/ Dual E5-2670 SR0KX , 128Gb. PC3L 10600R). Too good to pass up. Trying to figure out the best cooling solution. I know a bunch of the S2600CP folks have gone with the Noctua NH-U12DXi4. I am wondering if anyone has tried the Noctua NH-D15. Amazon.ca has them for close to the same price but the D15 is a significant upgrade in cooling capacity. I am concerned about arranging two of the D15's so that they clear all obstacles and each other. I will be attempting to fit all of this into my existing case which is the Thermaltake core V71. It can handle EATX motherboards and should have enough clearance for the height of the coolers. Its been three or four years since I last upgraded so I am looking forward to a huge leap in performance. Keep in mind that a D15 weighs quite a bit, and you are planning to double that weight. That and i very much doubt its going to fit. Personally i am using two Scythe Katana 4's, half the price of the i4 and keeps things cool enough. OK, thanks. Seems like they are definitely too big and heavy. Noctua Tech support had this input "thanks for contacting Noctua and for your interest in our products. Two NH-D15 won't fit due to its size and the socket placement but even if they would, I would be very skeptical of installing two of them due to their weight. The U12S and U14S models should be ok, just make sure there are no tall memory modules in the memory slots right next to the sockets." Ill look into the Scythe Katana 4's I have a Cooler Master Nepton 280L (water AIO) in my current configuration which I may try to incorporate in the new build. I guess I could go with air cooling on one CPU and water (AIO) on the other. Quote Link to comment
StevenD Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Lurking for several months. I purchased 2 of these CPUs and the Supermicro X9DRL-3F mb. The Supermicro site only lists a few tested memory modules for this board, which I am having difficulty finding. I was wondering if these of these memory kits would work and if so which would you recommend? Looking for best performance value. In other words, a little more $$ for significant performance is ok but not interested in the reverse. http://www.natex.us/Nanya-8GB-Memory-Modules-128GB-Kit-p/128gb-nt8c72c4ng0nl-cg.htm http://www.natex.us/Hynix-8GB-Memory-Module-128GB-Kit-p/128gb-hmt31gr7cfr4a-h9.htm http://www.natex.us/Hynix-8GB-Memory-Module-128GB-Kit-p/128gb-hmt31gr7cfr4c-pb.htm http://www.natex.us/Samsung-8Gb-M393B1K70DHO-CKO-128Gb-Kit-p/128gb-m393b1k70dho-cko.htm I am also open to other recommendations. I am looking @ 128 Gb as I would rather build it out now than upgrade down the road. I have never wished for less power after I have built a system. Thanks. Those should all work fine. I have two of those motherboards, and these are what I used: http://www.ebay.com/itm/128gb-16x-8gb-PC3L-10600R-2Rx4-Reg-ECC-Memory-Dell-Poweredge-R610-R710-R810-/142059461637? Quote Link to comment
jackbirch Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Lurking for several months. I purchased 2 of these CPUs and the Supermicro X9DRL-3F mb. The Supermicro site only lists a few tested memory modules for this board, which I am having difficulty finding. I was wondering if these of these memory kits would work and if so which would you recommend? Looking for best performance value. In other words, a little more $$ for significant performance is ok but not interested in the reverse. http://www.natex.us/Nanya-8GB-Memory-Modules-128GB-Kit-p/128gb-nt8c72c4ng0nl-cg.htm http://www.natex.us/Hynix-8GB-Memory-Module-128GB-Kit-p/128gb-hmt31gr7cfr4a-h9.htm http://www.natex.us/Hynix-8GB-Memory-Module-128GB-Kit-p/128gb-hmt31gr7cfr4c-pb.htm http://www.natex.us/Samsung-8Gb-M393B1K70DHO-CKO-128Gb-Kit-p/128gb-m393b1k70dho-cko.htm I am also open to other recommendations. I am looking @ 128 Gb as I would rather build it out now than upgrade down the road. I have never wished for less power after I have built a system. Thanks. Those should all work fine. I have two of those motherboards, and these are what I used: http://www.ebay.com/itm/128gb-16x-8gb-PC3L-10600R-2Rx4-Reg-ECC-Memory-Dell-Poweredge-R610-R710-R810-/142059461637? Thanks Steven Is any one brand or bus speed significantly better than another? Quote Link to comment
StevenD Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Lurking for several months. I purchased 2 of these CPUs and the Supermicro X9DRL-3F mb. The Supermicro site only lists a few tested memory modules for this board, which I am having difficulty finding. I was wondering if these of these memory kits would work and if so which would you recommend? Looking for best performance value. In other words, a little more $$ for significant performance is ok but not interested in the reverse. http://www.natex.us/Nanya-8GB-Memory-Modules-128GB-Kit-p/128gb-nt8c72c4ng0nl-cg.htm http://www.natex.us/Hynix-8GB-Memory-Module-128GB-Kit-p/128gb-hmt31gr7cfr4a-h9.htm http://www.natex.us/Hynix-8GB-Memory-Module-128GB-Kit-p/128gb-hmt31gr7cfr4c-pb.htm http://www.natex.us/Samsung-8Gb-M393B1K70DHO-CKO-128Gb-Kit-p/128gb-m393b1k70dho-cko.htm I am also open to other recommendations. I am looking @ 128 Gb as I would rather build it out now than upgrade down the road. I have never wished for less power after I have built a system. Thanks. Those should all work fine. I have two of those motherboards, and these are what I used: http://www.ebay.com/itm/128gb-16x-8gb-PC3L-10600R-2Rx4-Reg-ECC-Memory-Dell-Poweredge-R610-R710-R810-/142059461637? Thanks Steven Is any one brand or bus speed significantly better than another? I would say not really. Most of my servers only have Hynix. One of them is all Samsung. Quote Link to comment
DZMM Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 I need some help with selecting an EEB case please. The 'best' I've found is are the Enthoo Luxe cases, but I'm not a huge fan. What cases are other people using? Here's my current spec: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7YYrVY - Asus Z9PE-D8 WS SSI EEB Dual-CPU LGA2011 Motherboard - 6x 3.5" - 1x SSD I've found comments where people have put EEB boards in EATX cases like the fractal design XL and the R4. Is this advisable? I'm worried about the mobo not being secured properly Quote Link to comment
BobPhoenix Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I'm using a Norco 4224 with my Asrock EP2C602-4L/D16. Quote Link to comment
DZMM Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I'm using a Norco 4224 with my Asrock EP2C602-4L/D16. That's a bit out of my budget and would swallow my PC. I should have said I'm looking for a mid/full tower or maybe a cube like the Thermaltake ones. Quote Link to comment
dikkiedirk Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I just finished my second build based on these processors. I will mainly use it as another ESXi host. Case: Supermicro SC833T-R760B Power: Supermicro 760W Triple-Redundant Power Supply Motherboard: Supermicro X9DR3-F-B Processors: 2 x E-Intel Xeon E5-2670 Cooling: 2 x Noctua NH-D9DX i4 3U Memory: 16 x Hynix HMT31GR7BFR4A-H9 (128GB total) For grins, I installed Windows 10 on it before installing ESXi. Are the C606 SAS ports working in unraid? If so, is flashing to IT mode required? Quote Link to comment
StevenD Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I just finished my second build based on these processors. I will mainly use it as another ESXi host. Case: Supermicro SC833T-R760B Power: Supermicro 760W Triple-Redundant Power Supply Motherboard: Supermicro X9DR3-F-B Processors: 2 x E-Intel Xeon E5-2670 Cooling: 2 x Noctua NH-D9DX i4 3U Memory: 16 x Hynix HMT31GR7BFR4A-H9 (128GB total) For grins, I installed Windows 10 on it before installing ESXi. Are the C606 SAS ports working in unraid? If so, is flashing to IT mode required? Sorry, I have no clue. I have no need for them, so I disabled them the first time I booted. Quote Link to comment
METDeath Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Are the C606 SAS ports working in unraid? If so, is flashing to IT mode required? On my board they work fine, I don't remember how I set them up though. However, they work with a Seagate SAS SSD and with four regular drives using forward break outs. Quote Link to comment
dikkiedirk Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Are the C606 SAS ports working in unraid? If so, is flashing to IT mode required? On my board they work fine, I don't remember how I set them up though. However, they work with a Seagate SAS SSD and with four regular drives using forward break outs. Are you using the same board or a similar with the C606? Quote Link to comment
betaman Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Anybody recall the default login for the BMC web console on the S2600CP? I know I found it once somewhere... Quote Link to comment
StevenD Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Anybody recall the default login for the BMC web console on the S2600CP? I know I found it once somewhere... Try: Username: root Password: superuser Quote Link to comment
betaman Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Anybody recall the default login for the BMC web console on the S2600CP? I know I found it once somewhere... I have used this on other Intel BMC, but not that specific board. Username: root Password: superuser Thanks, no luck. I think in my infinite wisdom that I deleted some of the BMC login options last time I was in the bios. I guess I'm going to have to take the server down to check or add a new one. Quote Link to comment
jude Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 How many of the SATA ports on the S2600CP are enabled for use without the use of any unlocking hardware? Quote Link to comment
sry9681 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I have a question for y'all. I just bought the Intel S2600CP2J board with 128gb of RAM from NATEX and the dual 2670's. I will have a bout 12 3.5" 1TB drives and another 10 2.5" hooked up through a USB hub. I used a PSU calculator and it said to get a 1000w PSU but I feel that it's high from looking through this thread. What PSU and case do y'all recommend? Quote Link to comment
jude Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 If there is any chance of you adding multiple GPU's for VM's in the future then I would go with a minimum of something like the EVGA 850 G2. It has two CPU power cables and rates highly. Quote Link to comment
DZMM Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I'm using a Norco 4224 with my Asrock EP2C602-4L/D16. That's a bit out of my budget and would swallow my PC. I should have said I'm looking for a mid/full tower or maybe a cube like the Thermaltake ones. I'm going to go with a Thermaltake F51 which costs just over £100 for the PC edition - http://www.thermaltake.com/Chassis/Mid_Tower_/Suppressor/C_00002807/Suppressor_F51_Power_Cover_Edition/design.htm. I spent a lot of time researching SSI EEB cases yesterday and I'm confident now that most of the 12x13 EATX cases will hold SSI EEB mobos e.g. the F51 is only missing one mount out of 10 (in the middle on the right), so it'll be absolutely fine. Quote Link to comment
Beancounter Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I'm a bit torn. Do you go with dual E5 V1's (16 cores) for say $180 + expensive MB or go with a E5 V3 with 14 cores for $185 and a much cheaper one cpu motherboard.... http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Intel-xeon-e5-2683-v3-3-0GHz-turbo-22NM-35m-L3-cash-14c-28-threads-/182222659814?hash=item2a6d5120e6:g:rr4AAOSweXhXmewJ Quote Link to comment
ijuarez Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I'm a bit torn. Do you go with dual E5 V1's (16 cores) for say $180 + expensive MB or go with a E5 V3 with 14 cores for $185 and a much cheaper one cpu motherboard.... http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Intel-xeon-e5-2683-v3-3-0GHz-turbo-22NM-35m-L3-cash-14c-28-threads-/182222659814?hash=item2a6d5120e6:g:rr4AAOSweXhXmewJ 28 cores are better Quote Link to comment
aptalca Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I'm a bit torn. Do you go with dual E5 V1's (16 cores) for say $180 + expensive MB or go with a E5 V3 with 14 cores for $185 and a much cheaper one cpu motherboard.... http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Intel-xeon-e5-2683-v3-3-0GHz-turbo-22NM-35m-L3-cash-14c-28-threads-/182222659814?hash=item2a6d5120e6:g:rr4AAOSweXhXmewJ It's not a buy it now price, it's the highest bid. Who knows what it will go up to Quote Link to comment
01111000 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I'm a bit torn. Do you go with dual E5 V1's (16 cores) for say $180 + expensive MB or go with a E5 V3 with 14 cores for $185 and a much cheaper one cpu motherboard.... http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Intel-xeon-e5-2683-v3-3-0GHz-turbo-22NM-35m-L3-cash-14c-28-threads-/182222659814?hash=item2a6d5120e6:g:rr4AAOSweXhXmewJ 28 cores are better Dual e5s are 16 cores, 32 threads. What is linked is 14 cores, 28 threads. Quote Link to comment
fritzdis Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Does anyone know for sure if the Intel 550W PSU is actually 3 separate +12V rails? The P4000 Technical Product Specification seems to indicate that 12V1 & 12V2 are exclusively for the CPUs & memory. If all other 12V power must from 12V3 (18A max), that would really limit the number of hard drives I could use. Quote Link to comment
nightanole Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Does anyone know for sure if the Intel 550W PSU is actually 3 separate +12V rails? The P4000 Technical Product Specification seems to indicate that 12V1 & 12V2 are exclusively for the CPUs & memory. If all other 12V power must from 12V3 (18A max), that would really limit the number of hard drives I could use. They havent had tri or bi rail power supplies in 10 years. Even then most were single with 1-2 "limiters" after the regulators. Their is an amp limit per wire so you cant have 18 amp going through 1 strain of 18 gauge. 12v1/2/3 are all soldered to the same trace on the power supply. The only difference is that if a power supply is labeled multi rail, there is a 20amp over load protection per rail. A single rail unit just has 1 65 amp overload if its a 550 watt for example. Remember even if you have a 850 watt power supply, and they massage the limits, its still going to be 25amp per grouping. Quote Link to comment
fritzdis Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Does anyone know for sure if the Intel 550W PSU is actually 3 separate +12V rails? The P4000 Technical Product Specification seems to indicate that 12V1 & 12V2 are exclusively for the CPUs & memory. If all other 12V power must from 12V3 (18A max), that would really limit the number of hard drives I could use. They havent had tri or bi rail power supplies in 10 years. Even then most were single with 1-2 "limiters" after the regulators. Their is an amp limit per wire so you cant have 18 amp going through 1 strain of 18 gauge. 12v1/2/3 are all soldered to the same trace on the power supply. The only difference is that if a power supply is labeled multi rail, there is a 20amp over load protection per rail. A single rail unit just has 1 65 amp overload if its a 550 watt for example. Remember even if you have a 850 watt power supply, and they massage the limits, its still going to be 25amp per grouping. OK, I see now in the OCP section of the TPS that 12V3 seems to have a hard limit of 20A. Since it supplies the main power connector (P1) and the peripheral connectors (P4-P10), I can't go with 11 HDDs as I hoped. I guess I can mix in more 2.5" drives that are powered exclusively by 5V (I have 1 already). Quote Link to comment
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