Whaler_99 Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 The new SS-500 are SATA III (link) I am unable to determine if this one is trayless, is it? No - this one does have drive trays... Quote Link to comment
Helmonder Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Sign up with hop shop go. Its free and it will get you anything from the us you want from companies not shipping to your country.. Quote Link to comment
dwoods99 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I don't see mention of Startech's cages. I have 2 SATABAY5BK and was quite happy with them except I learned trayless is much easier for swapping, Temperature of fans is adjustable with L/M/H and I had no problems with them. Discontinued now. I also have a SBAY5BK (just been discontinued) which is trayless. Works great but no fan control. The two 3" fans are not enough and I found my drives going to 35-40C compared to 27-35C for other drives in the case. Even though they are both discontinued now, their website has no 5x3 replacement for them. EDIT: modified post to include links to the products. Quote Link to comment
Whaler_99 Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Interesting - the SATABAY5BK look almost exactly like the iStar - I wonder if they are OEM'ing them? Also, the SBAY5BK is a lot like another iStar model. Quote Link to comment
zoggy Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The new SS-500 are SATA III (link) some images from the newer sataIII version: http://greenleaf-technology.com/new-norco-ss-500-5-in-3-drive-cage-review/ The main reason why I'd had to have the sataIII version is for the shorter depth of the cage along with the sata ports being laid out in a row rather than having to guess. just FYI, if you try and buy the SS-500 from Amazon, the default seller is 'Better Choice Online' and they only have the SATA II version. I reached out to them to check if they had the newer model and was told: We only have the SATA2 version in stock, but purchasing has an inquiry in with our vendor to see if we can get you the SATA3 version. Thank you for your patience, and have a great day! After waiting a few days I gave up on them and just went ahead with my order at Newegg. If you order the SS-500 from Newegg, you should get the SATAIII version (but you may get different revisions of it). I ordered 3 cages from newegg and while all are the newer SATAIII variant I had one in the original revision (orange pcb with 3 pin fan) and two are (green pcb with 4 pin fan) For a shot of what they look like with the fan removed (note that the molex power have been flipped, 4 vs 3 pin fan, and then the sata ports are labeled 1-5 vs 4-0 now) http://i.imgur.com/iLrUaqB.jpg And I highly recommend replacing the fans in the SS-500 as they are way too loud for what they do. Per Raj and other forum suggestions they say that the Coolink SWif-802 are the way to go.. which is great if you live in Europe where you can find them. But if you live in america they are out of stock. Per QuietPC USA: We are affiliated with Quiet PC in the UK , however we operate as separate companies. They might still have a few of the fans left in stock, however if you were to purchase from them you would have to pay for overseas shipping. Our purchasing department as not been able to obtain any information regarding the Coolink fans from Noctua. Normally when this happens it means that a product is EOL (end of line) We have not however been notified of this by Noctua. It would probably be a good idea to start considering a different fan. We have sold out of the Coolink SWiF2-801 fans. Coolink is actually a sister company to Noctua. Noctua being the top brand and the Coolink products with less items included in the box and shorter warranties being priced less. Noctua has not confirmed to our purchasing department if or when more of the Coolink SWif2-801 fans will be available. Unfortunately, the only option that we have would be to substitute a different fan. We do have some of the Coolink SWif-801 fans in stock. They are a good fan at a bargain price. The SWiF2 model has better SSO type bearings which will last longer, the SWif model has two ball bearings. The Noctua NF-R8 fan is better than both of the Coolink fans. It has a 6 year warranty and adapter + resistor cables, however it would cost more. So in the end I ended up trying out the Noctua NF-R8 for my SS-500 and they work great (I use the Low-Noise Adaptor (L.N.A.) cable option). I picked up a 3 pack of the R8 fans on Amazon for cheaper than I could find two of the R8 fans alone. Quote Link to comment
Helmonder Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I just installed the supermicro 5in3 case in my server. Wanted to let people know that installing it was very easy, there are several threads on it fitting very badly but I cannot confirm this, worked great in my Fractal Design Define XL USB 3.0 Black Pearl. Although you have to be carefull in removing or bending the drive tabs in the case, I can imagine that if you do that to quickly you will bend the casing and THEN it willbe difficult to fit stuff.. Quote Link to comment
Zen Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 So in the end I ended up trying out the Noctua NF-R8 for my SS-500 and they work great (I use the Low-Noise Adaptor (L.N.A.) cable option). I picked up a 3 pack of the R8 fans on Amazon for cheaper than I could find two of the R8 fans alone. I've also used the Noctua NF-R8 as a replacement fan in the Norco SS-500 (I have the second generation SS-500, the one with the flat back). Works great. Quote Link to comment
seanant Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 May we see some pics of the fractal design define xl with supermicro 5x3 mod? Quote Link to comment
smino Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Do you have to use the trays? I would love a 5 in 3 where you could just drop the drive in, and have a bungie hold it there, so you can read the serial numbers! No screws to mess with. Hhow well does Unraid handle hot swapping drives? That is what I like on the backblaze pods, the simple drop. I noticed on version 3 they talked about how import vibration is for longevity of the drives, and they added an anti virbation bracket. Quote Link to comment
Rajahal Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Yes, you have to use the trays if you want a reliable server. Without the trays, the drive bay is too large for the drive and it will likely come loose and have an unreliable connection. I've seen trayless 4-in-3s and 3-in-2s, but no 5-in-3s unfortunately. Plus, the drive's serial number typically isn't written on the end of the drive, so even in a trayless cage it wouldn't be visible. You can print out some stickers and label the drive trays yourself, or just organize your trays in a logical manner (parity in tray 1, disk1 in tray 2, disk2 in tray 3, etc.) so that you can easily identify a failed drive. Quote Link to comment
Rajahal Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 So in the end I ended up trying out the Noctua NF-R8 for my SS-500 and they work great (I use the Low-Noise Adaptor (L.N.A.) cable option). I picked up a 3 pack of the R8 fans on Amazon for cheaper than I could find two of the R8 fans alone. I've also used the Noctua NF-R8 as a replacement fan in the Norco SS-500 (I have the second generation SS-500, the one with the flat back). Works great. I've started using the ARCTIC F8 PWM as a fan replacement for the Norco SS-500 and Norco SS-400 units. Fairly cheap, and it works well. Quote Link to comment
jeff.lebowski Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 You can print out some stickers and label the drive trays yourself, or just organize your trays in a logical manner (parity in tray 1, disk1 in tray 2, disk2 in tray 3, etc.) so that you can easily identify a failed drive. With the help of another unRAID user, I use Excel templates for disk cataloging. I can send along the blank template to whoever wants it. Just send a PM. Once I input the serial numbers, I snip the relevant section, and save the file to server\flash\unmenu\images\ and MyMain displays the exact layout of all installed disks. This works best with a hard disk serial number file. Mine is in Excel so I can sort by warranty expire. Quote Link to comment
HAVOC Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I have a norco roc 470 case. I'm looking at getting a 5 in 3 cage to give me 15 usable drives. Any suggestions or preferably any one with the rpc 470. Thanks Quote Link to comment
prostuff1 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 go with the norco 5x3 Quote Link to comment
HAVOC Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 go with the norco 5x3 Thanks prostuff. That was quick. I figured the norco would be the no brainier due to the case. Have you had any experience with the rpc 470? Quote Link to comment
prostuff1 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 go with the norco 5x3 Thanks prostuff. That was quick. I figured the norco would be the no brainier due to the case. Have you had any experience with the rpc 470? No direct experience but we build a lot of servers in the norco 4224 and 4220. We use the norco 5x3 in all our builds. Quote Link to comment
HAVOC Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Awesome I will be ordering the 5x3 and a xenon E3-1230 to take advantage of the ecc memory on my board. Wish I would have known that prior to purchasing but maybe I'll build another htpc. Quote Link to comment
ClawSS Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 diggin the SuperMicro's for almost 3yrs now. Quote Link to comment
Whaler_99 Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 Anyone have any interest in me reviewing the two new 5x3 cages from ICY DOCK? I may be able to get some samples. MB975SP-B - tray less MB155SP-B - new design of their popular tray one Whaler Quote Link to comment
electron286 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I would really like to know how good the trayless one is... so yes I would like to see a review! :-) Quote Link to comment
beire Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 go with the norco 5x3 Thanks prostuff. That was quick. I figured the norco would be the no brainier due to the case. Have you had any experience with the rpc 470? I own an rpc470 and have just added two supermicro 5x3s. They fit, not much room between the center case fans and the supermicro but its no problem. I can send you a photo if wanted. Also i had to remove the iron tray holding the filter in the door because it hits on the trays, but thats not an issue for me. Sent from my GT-P5110 using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment
Yankton Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Has anyone done a comparison between the supermicro M35T-1B and the M35TQB? Mostly looking at cooling wise. Quote Link to comment
Beer40oz Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 So in the end I ended up trying out the Noctua NF-R8 for my SS-500 and they work great (I use the Low-Noise Adaptor (L.N.A.) cable option). I picked up a 3 pack of the R8 fans on Amazon for cheaper than I could find two of the R8 fans alone. I've also used the Noctua NF-R8 as a replacement fan in the Norco SS-500 (I have the second generation SS-500, the one with the flat back). Works great. I've started using the ARCTIC F8 PWM as a fan replacement for the Norco SS-500 and Norco SS-400 units. Fairly cheap, and it works well. When you use the NR-R8 on the Norco SS-500 does the norco use the PMW on the fan? How you have it hooked up? I have not read all posts but the stock Norco fan is loud? Thank you. Ahhhh great review! http://greenleaf-technology.com/new-norco-ss-500-5-in-3-drive-cage-review/ So would you recommend changing the fan from the start or not? Been wanting to upgrade to a cage it's either the Norco or a iStarUSA BPN-DE350SS But from your review i am leaning towards the Norco. Thanx for the review. Quote Link to comment
Tyler Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 When you use the NR-R8 on the Norco SS-500 does the norco use the PMW on the fan? How you have it hooked up? I have not read all posts but the stock Norco fan is loud? Thank you. I've swapped the the stock fans in my Norco SS-500 for non-PWM Noctua NF-R8 fans. I run them at full speed, so don't use the included fan speed controllers. Take a look at this review, gives a really good run-down of the cages and the process for swapping the fan. http://greenleaf-technology.com/new-norco-ss-500-5-in-3-drive-cage-review/ Quote Link to comment
henris Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 I had hard time trying to find any of the recommended 5in3 cages available back here in Europe/Finland at least at a reasonable price. Finally found these: http://www.xcase.co.uk/product-p/caddy-53v2.htm I'm planning to order two of these. The total price (incl. postage from UK to Finland) per cage is 90eur (115$). If I have understood correctly these are re-branded Norco SS-500 V2. The next thing to find out is a fitting replacement fan. None of the recommended fans are locally available and I would hate to order anything this cheap over-seas. Could I use one of the following: http://www.nxstek.com/NXS-80mm-pwm-fan-ultra-quiet.htm http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=2943 Quote Link to comment
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