kbowman Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I made the mistake of messing with my crashplan install and upgraded it to 3.5.2. When I launch the app it launches and then after a few seconds says "CrashPlan has been disconnected from the backup engine." I tried uninstalling it and downgrading it back to 3.4.1 but it immediately upgraded itself back to 3.5.2. The backup engine seems to be running and when I relaunch the app it seems to be on another file. Any Ideas? Quote Link to comment
kbowman Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 I should also add that my user directory always is reloading in crashplan and needs to rescan all the time. Quote Link to comment
PhilDG Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 A couple of questions - which version of unraid are you using and which crashplan plugin? Some of the older older ones refused to work once Crashplan updated itself. How much are you trying to backup? Once you get to around 2.5tb you have to start allocating more memory. Quote Link to comment
kbowman Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 Right now I am on the most current 3.5.2. I used https://dl.dropbox.com/u/52884397/Crashplan.plg I even tried updating it to 3.5.2 I am trying to backup 6tb so that definitely could be it. How do I allocate more memory to the application? Do I need to buy more ram? I am at 2gb right now. Quote Link to comment
PhilDG Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The version of the plugin I am using is here: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=24875.0 I am currently backing up about 3.3tb so I don't know how much memory you might need for that much. I upgraded from 2gb to 4gb just in case. Apparently, you can set the value to larger than the installed RAM you have though To increase the memory allocated to crashplan you need to update the run.conf file located in [installdir]/crashplan/cp_bin/bin/ Change the first line in file from SRV_JAVA_OPTS="-Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -Dapp=CrashPlanService -DappBaseName=CrashPlan -Xms20m -Xmx512m ... to SRV_JAVA_OPTS="-Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -Dapp=CrashPlanService -DappBaseName=CrashPlan -Xms128m -Xmx850m ... to increase the memory from 512 to 850. Restart the service and verify that it doesn't keep restarting. BTW there will probably be hundreds of files in the bin folder - they are restart logs which I think you can safely remove. Quote Link to comment
kbowman Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Thanks. You had the same idea as Crashplan support. I increased it to 2048m and will see how it goes. I bought some more ram and will increase it to 4048m when I get it installed. Quote Link to comment
peteknot Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 This topic helped me fix my problem. But I noticed that when I try to set the max memory to 2GB (I have 4GB installed and the max is currently set to 1GB) it does not start the java process though the CrashPlanEngine start command comes back saying it is started. The crashplan support site says to have about 1GB memory for every 1TB that you plan to back up. I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this problem of not being able to increase the memory past a certain size? Thanks. Quote Link to comment
jpimlott Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Is there a requirement for the kernal level for crash plan ? I just upgraded my server to 5.0 final YEA. I would like to use my old tar file and just have it installed. Quote Link to comment
WalterB Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I had the memory setting set to 2048 however Crashplan would not run anymore. Thx to this topic I reverted to 1024 setting and Crashplan would start again. My problem now is that Crashplan is very slow which is why I modified the memory setting to 2048 in the first place. I am backing up over 2TB. I have 4 GB of memory installed and the system is running fine except for this issue. Crashplan was running fine with RC 16 and the 2048 setting. Is v5.0 limiting the allowed memory for plugins somehow? Can I change this allowed memory somehow? Quote Link to comment
tr0910 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I am backing up 9tb but only 1tb is going up to CrashPlan central. No issues with switch to v5 final. No 2048 in use though, also 4gb ram. What is your definition of slow? Sent from my mobile Quote Link to comment
peteknot Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Is unRaid 5.0 64 bit? Or more importantly, is the JVM (java virtual machine) 64 bit? Because that would put a limit on the virtual machine's memory max (-Xmx option). You can look at the logs to see if you get an error responding to memory. I have not had a chance to check the JVM and determine this when I was seeing the problem. Quote Link to comment
WalterB Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Thx for your thoughts, will continue to test. I only backup the essential files to CrashPlan Central, <500 GB, the 2 TB backup is to an off-site server. It seems as either java vm is crashing or crashplan. Crashplan keeps disconnecting and connecting again, this is why it appears very slow. As far as I know unRaid is 32bit. If I increase from 1024 to 2048 CrashPlanEngine won't even start. I will check the logs and try to find what's going on. Quote Link to comment
WalterB Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I looked around on the web and it appears that the maximum of heap memory you can allocate depends on the OS. Most relevant page I could find is this one: http://javarevisited.blogspot.nl/2013/04/what-is-maximum-heap-size-for-32-bit-64-JVM-Java-memory.html I tried to find the maximum memory I can allocate which is -Xmx1900m Quote Link to comment
peteknot Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 So it sounds like the jvm is 32 bit then. I don't think it matters where the backup is going but only the amount you're backing up. According to CrashPlan you should have 1 gig of memory for every TB you're backing up. Though that's a rule of thumb, but lack of memory is why I was seeing CrashPlan failing on me. Quote Link to comment
snowboardjoe Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 If you have lots of small files to back up that consume a lot of space, that would definitely drive up the memory need. If you are trying to backup very large files, then it's just the opposite. Since everyone is different, 1TB is a measure they chose based on an average file size. Quote Link to comment
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