cwhite3 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Ok the purpose for this build is to be used as a whole home server to stream using Plex. I have 3 kids so I needed something that can handle multiple people streaming. I want to rip all of my media down to this server. I have a media room and will be building a small HTPC to stream to my Theatre Room. This is my first computer build. unRaid OS with plex server CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor Motherboard: ASRock E3C226D2I Mini ITX LGA1150 RAM: 2 Kingston 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Registered DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Server Memory Model KVR16LR11S4/4I Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk Storage: 3 Seagate Constellation ES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Case: Fractal Design FD-CA-NODE-304-WH Mini ITX Desktop Case Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply I have set this up as a mini-ITX and realized that there aren’t many options with ECC and multiple SATA-6 ports. If you think I should switch to a larger format please let me know what you think. I would like to have this unit for a long time and make it expandable because I am sure my large media collection will get bigger. Link to comment
sgibbers17 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I just got a asrock c226 ws with ecc ram. I am currently running it for 30 days with out a restart or shutdown so I can add it to the tested motherboard list in the wiki. Link to comment
cwhite3 Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 I just got a asrock c226 ws with ecc ram. I am currently running it for 30 days with out a restart or shutdown so I can add it to the tested motherboard list in the wiki. That's great let me know how it goes. Link to comment
cwhite3 Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 To further clarify, this will be in the hub of my house where all the internet is ran. It will be nice and cool tucked away so size and noise don't matter. My budget is around $1200 but that isn't concrete. I am looking for 6 drive expandability but starting with 3 2TB drives. The reason I am going with the seagate enterprise drives is because of the 5 warranty. Link to comment
dirtysanchez Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Looks like a great build, I don't see any glaring issues. For RAM you say "2 Kingston 4GB xxxxx" so I'm assuming 8GB? I would suggest 8GB minimum for what you are looking to do. As for the drives, you can get a lot more storage for cheaper, but with shorter warranties obviously. If warranty length is your primary concern, then I understand. Might want to have a look at this thread first: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=30425.msg273500#msg273500 The only other thing I would suggest is the case used in my build, as I'm extremely partial to it (as are a lot of others around here), but that's obviously a preference thing. It also happens to be on sale for less than 1/2 price right now at Newegg. Link to comment
dirtysanchez Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Forgot to mention, your build should have more than enough horsepower to do at least 3 concurrent transcoded streams, if not more depending on source/destination formats. That said, most of the streaming that will take place in the home will be direct play and not transcoded anyway (depending on the streaming client) and hence you'll be able to run more simultaneous streams than you're ever likely to need. Link to comment
Qtrmeg Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Why are you using a SDD for a server? Link to comment
dirtysanchez Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Why are you using a SDD for a server? Super fast writes maybe? Although he didn't state it in the OP, I'm assuming he intends to use it as a cache drive. I think it's a bit overkill myself, but there are lots of people here who use them as cache drives. Link to comment
sadkisson Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I would think its more for power use than anything. My cache drive never spins down with plex running. Link to comment
dirtysanchez Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I would think its more for power use than anything. My cache drive never spins down with plex running. Good point. If you run Plex, whatever drive the library is stored on will never spin down. So an SSD could save you the power draw of a cache drive spinning 24x7. Link to comment
cwhite3 Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 I would think its more for power use than anything. My cache drive never spins down with plex running. Why are you using a SDD for a server? Everyone has said that when you run plex, that drive never spins down so the power usage is more and the life of that drive is less. So why not spend a $100 to save the hassle of having a drive fail real quick. This is just what i have learned while researching this build. Link to comment
garycase Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Wrong memory. The motherboard supports ECC, but it does NOT use registered modules. Link to comment
cwhite3 Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 Wrong memory. The motherboard supports ECC, but it does NOT use registered modules. Oh wow, thanks for the heads up. Will this memory work? Thanks again. Kingston 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Unbuffered DDR3 1600 Server Memory Model KVR16E11/4 Link to comment
garycase Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Yes, that's the right memory. Link to comment
garycase Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 A couple other comments .. => What's the purpose for the SSD? You don't need it for UnRAID, although if your plan is to use it as a cache drive for Plex that's fine. => I'd use 4TB drives instead of 2TB units. That will allow you to migrate to as much as 20TB of protected storage in that case (which supports a very nice collection). Enterprise class drives are fine, but I think the NAS quality units are all you need -- I'd go with 4TB WD Reds or Seagate NAS drives. Note that the Seagate NAS drives are on sale TODAY for the best price I've seen on them: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178393 Note sure how long that price is good for, but it's a VERY good price ($40 less per drive than I paid for a half dozen I bought just 3 months ago). Link to comment
cwhite3 Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 A couple other comments .. => What's the purpose for the SSD? You don't need it for UnRAID, although if your plan is to use it as a cache drive for Plex that's fine. => I'd use 4TB drives instead of 2TB units. That will allow you to migrate to as much as 20TB of protected storage in that case (which supports a very nice collection). Enterprise class drives are fine, but I think the NAS quality units are all you need -- I'd go with 4TB WD Reds or Seagate NAS drives. Note that the Seagate NAS drives are on sale TODAY for the best price I've seen on them: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178393 Note sure how long that price is good for, but it's a VERY good price ($40 less per drive than I paid for a half dozen I bought just 3 months ago). Yeah the SSD is going to be the cache drive for plex. I have heard bad things about the fail rates on the WD Red drives. That is a good price on those drives, I am going to go ahead and get 3 of them. Still makes me nervous because they only have a 3 year warranty though. Link to comment
cwhite3 Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 Ok I know a lot of people on here went with the Asus H87I-PLUS with an i3. The reason I didn't was because of the ECC and thought that this would help me with future problems. Am I correct in thinking this? Link to comment
garycase Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Ok I know a lot of people on here went with the Asus H87I-PLUS with an i3. The reason I didn't was because of the ECC and thought that this would help me with future problems. Am I correct in thinking this? Absolutely. While standard unbuffered RAM is very reliable, ECC adds fault-tolerance to your RAM subsystem, just as the parity disk adds it to the storage subsystem. ECC RAM is definitely a better way to go. For reliability in a RAM subsystem, the best option is FBDIMM or registered modules (i.e. buffered RAM); the next-best choice is unbuffered modules with ECC (what you're getting); and the least-reliable choice is simple unbuffered modules. Note that if you're using unbuffered modules (with or without ECC), you can reduce the risk of RAM errors by minimizing the number of modules you install. I never install more than one module per channel (2 modules total on most boards -- 3 on a triple-channel board). Link to comment
garycase Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Don't misread what I wrote, however ... an Asus H871-Plus is an excellent motherboard, and the vast majority of consumers have unbuffered, non-ECC RAM that's running just fine. But now that there are good choices with ECC, they're simply a better way to go for a server. Link to comment
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